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all right let's bring in Jim Breslow the

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host of the podcast the hidden truth Las

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Vegas shooting Jim thank you for being

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here and we want to talk about the

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interview you were able to unpack a lot

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in just a moment but first can I ask you

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how did you land the interview with the

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brother your studios in Encino pretty

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incredible yeah we felt that to get to

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the bottom of what really happened and

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that's what we're trying to do is find

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out that who went and where and it's

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unbelievable that we still don't have

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those answers today but we thought you

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have to go to the family and there's

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only a couple family members that hadn't

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spoken and he was one of them and he's

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currently facing felony charges of child

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pornography possession in Los Angeles

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and we learned that there was a

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preliminary hearing coming up we sent

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our reporter over there and there was

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Bruce in his wheelchair by himself

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waiting for his lawyer to come and she

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approached him and ultimately offered

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him a cigarette and next thing you know

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we had him on the show so on Friday you

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gave us the exclusive about the the

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interview and you aired it on Friday

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part one part two is coming up

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the following Monday yes what moved you

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the most about what he had to say well

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it was riveting the family tragedy I

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think the father was on the FBI's most

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wanted list the mother had told the

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family that the father was dead she

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Huddle's the boys around when he's about

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19 how does this as I have something to

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tell you

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your father is alive and he's a bank

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robber etc and you could imagine the

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impact on these four boys to learn for

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the first time at that age that their

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father is actually alive Bruce said he

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didn't speak to his mother again for 25

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years as a result but he did go see his

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father the shooter the older brother

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Stephen was chose not to see the father

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Jim you discovered a lot of things in

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this podcast yeah that I had heard and

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we read anew in the news a lot that also

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um Stephen had seven cell phones so a

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lot of people asking the question why

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would somebody acting alone be carrying

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seven cell phones that's why there's so

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many unanswered questions the FBI is

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deep into their investigation right now

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but that's why we need to keep going

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this investigation Bruce Patek he

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basically believes that his brother

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acted alone he believes that he broke as

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a result of gambling

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that's in the break up with his

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girlfriend and that basically snapped it

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still doesn't explain to any of us why

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you would go and do this that's why it

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still leaves open questions because if

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he was truly acting alone why do you

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need seven cellphones if he's truly

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acting why was there 18 guns brought

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into the room that he had brought there

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before apparently too well this is a you

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need weapons in and out of mandalay

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before this is what his brother

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speculates and the brother did a lot of

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speculating I got to be clear but it is

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his brother so would your the brother

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speculate for someone else do you give

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it a little bit more credibility he

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speculates that absolutely this is not

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the first time the Stephen Patek had

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brought guns into the Mandalay Bay Hotel

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so Bruce Patek talks about the moment he

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learns his brother Stephen is a Las

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Vegas shooter take a listen I saw that

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you know the CNN and every channel had

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this shooting and I looked again and

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they said Steffen paddock and I said

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what so I called my mom and my mom

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answered the phone and I said is that

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Steve and she said I guess so and I

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asked her was was he sick like me she

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didn't want to talk about it yeah what

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does that mean yes well one would assume

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that he's talking about some type of

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mental illness now he does suffer from

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spinal stenosis Bruce does and I

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followed up with him on this I called

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him about this because I did want to

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clarify he said that he was talking

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about the spinal condition now I don't

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know if that's the case or not whether

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there's a mental issue and the family

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clearly Stephens suffered from some type

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of mental illness but you talked about

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the Spain the the pain is and actually

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Steven did have back surgery the shooter

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had back surgery at a young age but he

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also said Stephen was a successful one

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in the family the one that was kind of a

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leader of the family even cared for all

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the boys yes keep in mind you've got

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four boys raised without a father and

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but yes Stephen was basically the

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default father he was seven years older

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than Bruce so he was the father figure

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but he said from a very early age he was

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about wealth and material accumulate

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and he remembered him even pointing to

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crystals up on the stand in his mother's

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dining room and saying that those would

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be mine one day this is a very broken

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family and a family that is battling

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demons and you under I understand you

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you called and you have another

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interview you have a follow-up coming up

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yes the second half well the second half

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of this interview will air on Monday

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right and I also Stillman touch with

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Bruce and I think that he probably wants

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to reveal more so there may be follow-up

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interviews with him he's he's got some

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interesting theories that in information

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that he didn't want to share with me yet

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but he still wants to people that

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haven't heard again your podcast again

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it's called the hidden truth hidden

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truth Las Vegas shooter

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yeah and it's it's fascinating well we

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decided that there's certain subjects

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that aren't getting proper coverage in

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the beauty of podcast is you can go

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deeper dives into things so you know

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here we've got Las Vegas shooting the

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greatest the largest shooting in

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American history and yet it's barely

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covered anymore we don't have the answer

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so we thought that was a perfect story

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for us to start with and try and find

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answers and we're thrilled that were

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able to start finding some answers to

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the shooting and really for the victims

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we've interviewed a number of the

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victims and they do say it's important

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for them for closure

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to know what happened until we know what

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happened and why it happened how can we

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try to guard against this in the future

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all right so listeners should check it

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out for themselves and the upcoming one

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in the following Monday Jim thank you we

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should note also that Bruce paddock